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GIS [Mar. 13th, 2006|04:41 pm]
wetkneefarm
A property inventory seems like a perfect opportunity to use GIS. But I've been trying to get a GIS program to work for days and days and am just about ready to give up.

First I downloaded ArcExplorer, which seems to be the toned down, free version of ArcMap, which is what I learned on. But ArcExplorer seems to not have the features I need. I found a shapefile showing the geology of Virginia, but ArcExplorer can't seem to figure out how that file relates to other shapefiles I have, like a simple map of Virginia with counties.

So I looked a little further. SPRING looked like a very intense, free program. But the program comes out of Brazil and I can't seem to figure out how to make it work right since all of the help pages are in Portuguese. (Babelfish was moderately helpful, but reading the pages just became too painful to continue.)

Next stop, Openmap. Openmap was in English and I got a little further with it. But the program still got stumped when I put in that geology map. I'm starting to think that maybe there's something wrong with the geology map, even though I was able to open it on its own under ArcExplorer. Oh, and Openmap made all of my xterms all funky --- they changed from filling up 2/3 of the screen and being white type on a black background to filling up 1/5 of my screen and being black type on a gray background. Ugly.

Gah! Maybe I just want to draw pretty pictures in the GIMP. Maybe I want to call ArcMap's company and ask them how much ArcMap costs and whether they have an educational discount (although I usually assume that if there are no prices on the website, it's out of my price range.) Maybe I want to ask anyone who reads my blog if they've had good luck with a freeware GIS program?
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From: rangerbrandy
2006-03-13 09:55 pm (UTC)

Start saving your pennies

As a GIS Technician (albeit a new one) I can tell you ArcMap is very pricey.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-14 09:20 pm (UTC)

Re: Start saving your pennies

Yeah, I suspected as much.... I hope you're enjoying your new job! It sounds like fun.
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[User Picture]From: reldnahkram
2006-03-14 12:13 am (UTC)
You need to link the files together using a common data-point, in your case probably county name.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-14 09:23 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's what I want to do. But I'm not quite sure how to do it. The geology map doesn't have counties on it, so I figured I'd have to actually tell the computer the map's location and scale, somehow.

I think that the root of the problem may be that the geology map is a different kind of projection than the other maps. Maybe. When I load up the geology map by itself, it's at a bit of a slant compared to the other map of Virginia. Is there a way to figure out what kind of projection a map is in and change it to match another map?
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[User Picture]From: reldnahkram
2006-03-14 10:56 pm (UTC)
I fiddled with some GIS stuff about three years ago, so it's real fuzzy. If you can tell it which projection is which, it should be able to make them line up. I don't know if it will do linking by location, it might, or you might have to tweak the data some to get it to work.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-15 01:06 pm (UTC)
That makes sense - thanks!
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[User Picture]From: reldnahkram
2006-03-15 11:17 pm (UTC)
No problem.
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[User Picture]From: womble2
2006-03-14 01:55 am (UTC)
Have you tried GRASS yet? I haven't used it but it appears to be the leading free ("as in speech") GIS.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-14 09:37 pm (UTC)
I was just trying random programs I wandered across on the web. I'm looking into GRASS now --- it looks quite good, although the download page looks a lot harder than some of the others I've fumbled my way through. May have to get help...

I've been racking my brain to figure out if I know you. Looking over your website, it seems likely that you're Joey's friend. Did I guess right? If so, can you talk him into making a feed to put his blog on LJ so that I'll remember to read it? :-)
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[User Picture]From: womble2
2006-03-14 09:43 pm (UTC)
Well I've met Joey, but I don't know him well enough to consider him a friend. I read his blog through Planet Debian, which means he must have an RSS feed, and that appears here a kitenet_joey.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-15 01:10 pm (UTC)
But that RSS feed only seems to be updated through the middle of February and Joey has a lot more recent blog entries. Howcome? (Maybe I should just ask Joey, but he seemed very uninterested in making his blog readable through LJ.)
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[User Picture]From: womble2
2006-03-15 08:05 pm (UTC)
That's because his feed is not valid (or even well-formed). He really ought to fix that.
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From: (Anonymous)
2006-03-14 03:30 pm (UTC)

There's also...

qgis, if you're not a qt-o-phobe.
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[User Picture]From: wetkneefarm
2006-03-14 09:43 pm (UTC)

Re: There's also...

Can't be afraid of something I've never heard of...

Thirty seconds of research suggest that qgis and GRASS work together. Which one would you recommend? Are they used for different things?
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